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PostPosted: Fri 11. Aug 2023 21:25:33 
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Hello loctite,
I think its no need to get a radio with ethos on it - there will be no difference if the programming is the same as in the radiomaster -

I think the "mistake" is maybe in the programming on the Radiomaster or in the FBL...

Have you maybe a mix which reduces the travel of the pitch by activating the rescue ?

Is this a new Spirit ? Have you crashed it before ?
Sorry, I'm running out of ideas now...


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PostPosted: Fri 11. Aug 2023 21:35:01 
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This will possibly bore the two of you to death but I've put out the full video where I set everything up from scratch, including mechanical setup etc.
Subtrim and pitch adjustment could perhaps have been a little better but you can see pretty much everything and verify that the setup should work.

Again, I can't thank you enough for assisting me. It's extremely hard to diagnose this types of things remotely and I appreciate your efforts.

https://youtu.be/VpNSXHpXVuk


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PostPosted: Fri 11. Aug 2023 21:35:49 
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The video is going to need a little time to render to HD on Youtube's servers...


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PostPosted: Fri 11. Aug 2023 22:20:22 
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The Spirit is brand new, bough from the Norwegian dealer in April. I bought a geolink from Spirit directly a little later and didn't put it in the model until after my summer vacation. It's been in the air for some short flights only, no crashes or any other strangeness. It flies fine in the air, exept for Rescue that is.

There are no mystery mixes or anything like that. The original model memory was from the vbar days but I hav set up completely new model memories without any curves or anything special.
Even if there was a mix affecting collective pitch it could not affect collective pitch while rescue is active. When rescue is active the spirit governs collective pitch while the user can only affect cyclic. This is how the manual explains it and also how it looks in practice.
From what I can see there is something wrong with rescue, not only does changing rescue collective pitch not affect anything but there is also no attempt by the gyro to change the attitude of the heli. If the heli is flown at a steep bank it will not pitch to a level attitude when rescue is engaged, only decend quicly with the same attitude.


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PostPosted: Sat 12. Aug 2023 7:24:20 
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loctite wrote:
Even if there was a mix affecting collective pitch it could not affect collective pitch while rescue is active. When rescue is active the spirit governs collective pitch while the user can only affect cyclic. .


^^^exactly this (unless it would set max. pitch by P: function)

is there some other things connected to the Spirit unit (other than Rx, esc & servos) at the time of testing? did you try to completely disconnect the Geolink unit?

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nb: ... i do not know your TX, but is it really the only way to assign Rescue switch to a channel by using a Mixer? (no direct assignment Switch>Channel?).
nbb: ... why do you use motor channel mixed with pitch? do you use pitch stick for throttle too instead of a fixed throttle value by flight mode?

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PostPosted: Sat 12. Aug 2023 8:03:56 
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Hello loctite,
please do me a favor, do not connect geolink to the spirit and try please rescue alone -
I haven't seen the video now so far but if you connect geolink too maybe there are some effects -
On the workbench some of the reaction are different than in the air -

I have no geolink in use so I can say nothing about that and can not help in this theme -

Later I will look you complete video that was just a thought from me -


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PostPosted: Sat 12. Aug 2023 8:26:34 
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There are only two things needed to set.
On monday I will help.

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PostPosted: Sat 12. Aug 2023 8:28:05 
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edge tx open tx is one software open source.
in the past I programmed c#
software radiomaster can be programmed in an mode open source
radio master tx16s is excellent with 200dollars you have radio settings of 1000 dollars
but it has so many functions that there must always be a bug
after that there are 10000 firmware versions
for example how do you set the gyroscope?
you should try radio type spektrum with dsmx or dsm2
or jeti with receiver jeti
it's hard that spirit does not work I bought it from the spirit site and everything is ok for me.
maybe you have programmable servos incompatible.
the best thing would be to take spirit mount on another heli with other components
zexx the servo always goes to the 0 degree position whatever you do

can you explain to me exactly all the components one by one that you have on the helicopter?
even if you have a usb stick write me the list
he tried them all but always the same result is very strange, I believe that whatever you do you will always have 0 degrees
write me the components and also how you connect to spirit (i use one extension plug servo spirit-female and i insert the supplied USB cable)
Let's see if we can remove any components .
but you don't have a model where to mount the spirit?
let's do it first


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PostPosted: Sat 12. Aug 2023 10:36:18 
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After checing your settings file I found the mistake immediately.

You have not set F: Rescue (...). Instead you set F: Stabi Mode which is mistake.
Then it will work immediately. I recommended to check it at the beginning. However it seems the mistake is still there.

You are mixing two engaging modes together. For this reason it cant work.

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PostPosted: Sat 12. Aug 2023 10:45:55 
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ZeXx86 wrote:
...You have not set F: Rescue (...). Instead you set F: Stabi Mode which is mistake.....


Hello Tomas, this is already corrected by the user "loctite" after we exchanged on his settings on HF. see attached a screenshot of the last video he posted some post back >> where this setting is ok. ("F: Rescue" & "selected by channel"). anyhow not working.


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