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 Post subject: Re: Failure with Rescue
PostPosted: Thu 28. Aug 2014 23:05:42 
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ZeXx86 wrote:
OK, no problem.

Also did you checked the log from the unit? In case it was power issue there should be saved log in the unit, so you should see a message about log from the previous flight when you opened Log viewer in the software.


Just checked it - as you suggested there is a Low Voltage warning - thank you so much.

Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: Failure with Rescue
PostPosted: Thu 28. Aug 2014 23:23:18 
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Quick update - just tried the standard test of "pitch pumping" the throttle stick (without blades on) and after about 15 - 20 seconds the Unit resets, accompanied by a Low Voltage warning in the log.

Added the capacitor and tried again - did about a minute of pitch pumping without a reset

Seems pretty convincing ...


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 Post subject: Re: Failure with Rescue
PostPosted: Thu 28. Aug 2014 23:47:45 
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Thanks for the info.
So its certain it was a problem with the power.
It could be actually a problem with one or more servos, but especially with Savox/Align micro servos, there is high risk of failure due to overheat.
With increasing load the motor in each servo is heating more and more which causing higher loads for the BEC.

For example even cheap TGY 306 servos are uncomparable with its performance. These servos are great for the flybarless helicopters - flight characteristics are much much better too. If you want exceptionally good performance I can recommend MKS DS95.
Unfortunately for 450 and smaller size helicopters, there are unbelievable differences between servos.

All in all, be very carefull.

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 Post subject: Re: Failure with Rescue
PostPosted: Thu 28. Aug 2014 23:49:50 
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Gotta Love this forum :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Failure with Rescue
PostPosted: Thu 28. Aug 2014 23:51:55 
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Thanks.
By the way you can set higher frequency for the tail servo.
DS520 can handle 333Hz without any issue. With this frequency the tail should work much better.

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 Post subject: Re: Failure with Rescue
PostPosted: Fri 29. Aug 2014 0:01:35 
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Im planning on putting the unit on an outrage fusion 50 with ace rc colress cyclic servos with a kontronik jive 80hv esc do you think the built in bec will handle the bailout current draw?


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 Post subject: Re: Failure with Rescue
PostPosted: Fri 29. Aug 2014 0:14:58 
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Yes, it could be enough. Jive has very good BEC.

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 Post subject: Re: Failure with Rescue
PostPosted: Fri 29. Aug 2014 0:57:48 
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Thanks, im sure it will be in the manual but i assume correct bailout checks pre flight are quite simple, ie collective in the right direction after hitting bailout ? And do it every flight as i do now with the vbar


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 Post subject: Re: Failure with Rescue
PostPosted: Fri 29. Aug 2014 3:54:13 
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Exactly, Before flying I hit the rescue switch and make sure it goes in the correct direction.


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 Post subject: Re: Failure with Rescue
PostPosted: Fri 29. Aug 2014 7:10:37 
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ZeXx86 wrote:
Thanks.
By the way you can set higher frequency for the tail servo.
DS520 can handle 333Hz without any issue. With this frequency the tail should work much better.


I currently have it at 250Hz, but may bump it up.

I will rename the thread here and HF so that people do not think that it was a product issue

Cheers,
Mike


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