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Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll
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Author:  sascha1603 [ Thu 13. Apr 2017 18:30:26 ]
Post subject:  Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll

Hello
In my Compass Chronos I have the following problem
In the bank 0 at only 1250U / min he partly rolls over roll and Nick when he is on his back! Usually when I take it deeper and then intercept, or quite calmly on the back hovering and let him stand thus without input, he suddenly kicks away slowly
With the other banks it is not
Have already put the gain on 75 and 70, without improvement
When the Spirit was in the 7HV was not the case
What could I adjust?

Greeting Sascha

Author:  ZeXx86 [ Fri 14. Apr 2017 9:54:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll

Hello,

if the problem is not in Bank 0, then there is some settings that is causing it.
Can you please send me settings from all the banks so I can see difference?

You can also use Bank comparison feature and see what is wrong.

Maybe it is some settings from your transmitter. If your Banks are assigned as a different Flight modes, then it is possible you have some subtrims/trims configured in this modes.
This can be also visible in Diagnostic tab.

Author:  sascha1603 [ Fri 14. Apr 2017 10:27:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll

Hello
It's only in bank the problem
In the transmitter, all banks are the same, trim is deactivated and only the bank switch, gyro and speed is changed, no expo or dual rate
In appendix
00 bank 0
11 Bank 1
22 Bank 2

Greeting Sascha

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Author:  ZeXx86 [ Sat 15. Apr 2017 14:27:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll

Hello,

I can see that there are some slight differences between banks. But are different banks also with same RPM?

If RPM is not same, then this is the big difference. Unfortunately from your description, I am not sure if I understand the problem correctly.
Can you describe it little bit more?

In any way, what you can try is:
1) go to Servos tab
2) enable Subtrim (tuning)
3) check if the servo arms are perpendicular at this moment
4) check if the swashplate is level
5) check if there is 0° between main blades

Are these things OK?

Author:  sascha1603 [ Sat 15. Apr 2017 16:54:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll

Hello
Yes, different speeds, bank 0 1280U / min, bank 1 1550U / min and bank 2 1950U / min
The problem is, if the heli is hovering on the back and I drop him down from about 20m height he kips at the negative pitch at the intercept (without which I roll) to a side away and only at Bank 0
At Bank 1 and 2 it is not
Should I stop the head circles?
TS is 100% straight

Mfg Sascha

Author:  scrambled [ Sun 16. Apr 2017 11:18:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll

Are you using Google translate?
It's not understandable. :?

(I guess you're German?)

Author:  sascha1603 [ Sun 16. Apr 2017 11:57:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll

Yes i am german and take google translation
Greeting sascha

Author:  Coco66 [ Sun 16. Apr 2017 14:18:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll

Then write in German and somebody will help with translation...

Author:  sascha1603 [ Sun 16. Apr 2017 16:35:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll

folgendes Problem
wenn der Chronos auf dem Rücken ist, und ich von 20m höhe runter hole (auch bei nur 5m) und ich dann negative Pitch gebe zum abfangen kippt er auf eine Seite weg!
auch wenn ich negative Pitche und ihn dann wieder mit Positive sacken lasse das gleiche beim abfangen
wenn ich ihn z.b. auf dem Rücken schweben lasse, kann ich bei Bank 1 und 2 die Finger vom Knüppel nehmen, bei Bank 0 nicht weil er nicht stehen bleibt sondern auf die Seite weg kippt

In der Funke ist alles gleich bis auf den Kreisel und Drehzahlen eingestellt, weder Expo noch Dualrate

mfg Sascha

Author:  scrambled [ Mon 17. Apr 2017 13:45:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Chronos tilts at low rpm via nick and roll

That roughly translates to:

You fly the heli inverted and let it drop.
To catch the heli you give negative and at that point the heli rolls on it side.

In Bank1 and 2 you can hover inverted, even without your finger on the cyclic stick.
However not in Bank 0, then it starts to roll.

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Have you checked the five points ZeXx86 gave you?
Is your swash level, also on the point where it sits when inverted?
Check with a swashplate leveler tool.

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