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| Author: | prof1943 [ Mon 15. Feb 2016 3:46:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Understanding Rescue Settings |
I just purchased the Spirit Pro. The manual is rather vague/ terse on the on the rescue feature capability/ setup. pg 46 describes the different rescue function/ settings but the information needs a bit of expanding. 1]i.e. what is the real difference between the Rescue (normal) setting and the Stabilization (normal) 2] And how does one attach one or more of the rescue modes to a Tx function/ switch. i.e. I'm flying around and get in trouble what do I do with the Tx to cause the heli to right itself? i.e. how do I activate Rescue (normal)? 3] Can the Tx be set to accept more then one rescue mode w/o going back into the setup program. Is this what the "bank" paragraph 5.6 switch assignment is all about? i.e. do I go through the setup for normal flight Bank 0...then go through setup again for rescue (normal) Bank 1... etc |
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| Author: | jgiannakas [ Mon 15. Feb 2016 9:28:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Understanding Rescue Settings |
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=6792160 I've written up my setup guide for the DX9. It's similar principles for any other transmitter. Regarding differences: Rescue normal: will end up upright level and climbing Rescue acro: will end up level and climbing to the closest orientation - if you're inverted it will rescue inverted Stabilisation: will behave more like a coaxial heli. Regarding multiple rescue modes you should use bank switching to activate them. Set your 7th channel the bank channel on the spirit configuration and setup each bank with the rescue style you want. |
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| Author: | prof1943 [ Mon 15. Feb 2016 15:26:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Understanding Rescue Settings |
And I am programming my Spirit for a DX9 TX thank you for the help. |
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| Author: | prof1943 [ Tue 16. Feb 2016 16:06:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Understanding Rescue Settings |
I studied all you said to look at and a good bit of the other website topic information. Understanding of the Spirit system/ setup has been greatly improved, however, with understanding comes more questions. 1) The literature discusses "option" for climb out after rescue. How is climb-out rate setup/ controlled? And why do I want the heli to climb why not just rescue upright? 2) I believe that I understand the difference between the (normal) and (acro) rescue feature of each rescue mode. I do not yet attempt to fly inverted so (acro) rescue feature is not being considered. I am at a skill level to fly mostly in circles and sometimes attempt figure 8ths. I am just learning decent heli head-in control. Therefore I am, at this time only interested in rescue of an out of control basically upright heli. However, I am still having trouble understanding the difference between Rescue (normal) and Stabilization (normal). To me "Skids to the ground" (as noted in both rescue functions) means just... skids to the ground or... an upright helicopter headed in the direction it was headed. Please discuss the difference between the two skids down situation. Thanks. |
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| Author: | jgiannakas [ Tue 16. Feb 2016 18:48:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Understanding Rescue Settings |
Stabilisation will make the heli act like a coaxial heli. For what you need is rescue normal. You control the climb rate by the amount of collective on the slider in the rescue screen. The more it's applied the faster the heli will climb. I have it at -70% on both of mine, which means basically that hey will climb with 70% collective. Note the - as my collective channel is reversed. Try it with throttle hold on and make sure you get positive pitch when hitting the rescue button on the ground with the heli spooled down. |
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| Author: | Coco66 [ Tue 16. Feb 2016 20:48:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Understanding Rescue Settings |
In other words (sorry jgiannakas) the two Stabilization features are supposed to be used while flying, active all the time, to make the heli super-tamed and reacting like a coax heli, and leveling and kinda "stopping" when you release the cyclic stick. They are NOT an emergency recovery feature. I would suggest you NOT to use them. They are useless IMHO. On the other hand, the Rescue is the one you need when you lost control, the one which you will activate for a few seconds to get out of trouble. Other systems (Blade SAFE) call it the "Panic button" which gives you the correct idea. The heli will level and climb. Climb will stop the forward motion it may have. That's why you DO want it to climb. While climbing, you can yaw to realize how the heli is oriented, put it tail in, then release the Rescue button (put your pitch stick somewhere above middle before that) and get full control back. So, set it up at Rescue (normal) and 60% Rescue pitch to start, climb high and try it. Using Rescue (acro) is for... much more advanced control pilots. Still, your Rescue (normal) will work perfectly when you will be flying inverted. |
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| Author: | prof1943 [ Wed 17. Feb 2016 19:20:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Understanding Rescue Settings |
That my friend (coco66) is an outstanding explanation of the difference between the rescue and stabilization functions. As they say... By Gorge I think that I got it! I would hope that the Spirit folks consider adding you explanation to page #46 of the User Guide during the next manual update/ revision. And... if I actually did understand you explanation correctly, one other thought should be added to the (revised user guide) Stabilization (normal) mode write-up/ explanation: "The Stabilization mode should be considered for newbie folks just learning to fly the helicopter head-in." |
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| Author: | Coco66 [ Wed 17. Feb 2016 20:33:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Understanding Rescue Settings |
Happy that I helped you with my down to earth explanation. Actually, I said that the Stabilization mode is useless. It is not. It does what it's supposed to do (level the heli when you release the cyclic) but... it just misses one point: it does not stop the motion. If it worked more like my Blade nanoQX Stability mode, it will be perfect (actually, I think that the Blade Stability is not actively stopping the motion, it's the very low inertia that does it, but the Spirit should strive for that result according to me). |
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