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Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquiry?
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Author:  AndrewJohnHawes [ Thu 17. Nov 2022 21:45:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquir

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Hi Habásek,
Here are the Spirit Files I hope.

Author:  AndrewJohnHawes [ Thu 17. Nov 2022 21:48:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquir

Hi Habásek,
Yes the image is from the top. Here the model is standing on its undercarriage.

Author:  Habásek [ Fri 18. Nov 2022 14:32:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquir

H AndrewJohnHawes
I don't see anything wrong with the setup.
Please focus on the Diagnostics tab to see if the green slider moves in line with the elevator control lever (regardless of how the control surface on the aircraft moves) :
If not, reverse the channel in the transmitter.
If yes, check whether the control panel on the plane moves correctly, if not, check in the SW in the Servo/Reverse tab.

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Author:  Habásek [ Fri 18. Nov 2022 14:35:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquir

Do you still have the stabi function set up, is the function turned off when setting it up?
Harder to recognize the correct compensation movement is to have Head Lock on with more % gain, the movement is more noticeable.

Author:  AndrewJohnHawes [ Fri 18. Nov 2022 21:46:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquir

Hi Habásek,
Yes, as I pull back on the elevator stick (to pitch up) the green bar moves towards the top and vise versa towards the bottom when I push forward to pitch down. The control surface moves correctly when I do this. However, when I check compensation movement, when I till nose of aircraft down, the compensation movement is for the elevator to move down to INCREASE the severity of the dive!!
This action is very clear to see at the moment.
Because I had this GTR previously on a helicopter (where it worked correctly) I have reset back to factory settings previously, just in case, as well as obviously having the Aero firmware loaded.
Sorry!
Andy

Author:  AndrewJohnHawes [ Fri 18. Nov 2022 21:55:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquir

Can I just unequivocally ask you to reiterate the correct movement of the green bar, please.
PULL ELEVATOR STICK BACK (TO BOTTOM OF RADIO) - GREEN BAR SHOULD MOVE TO TOP ?
I know this seems obvious, but I may be just incredibly stupid too, as all other control movements by stick on the radio have the green bars move in the SAME direction as the stick movements.
Thanks,
Andy

Author:  Habásek [ Fri 18. Nov 2022 22:06:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquir

here will be the error:
when you pull the lever on the transmitter down (towards you), the green slider in Diagnostics must also go down (towards you) ...
Reverse the elevator channel on your radio..
And then for the correct movement of the control surface in the servo tab .. maybe reverse maybe not, depending on the movement of the control surface ..
Then the gyro compensation will be OK...

Author:  AndrewJohnHawes [ Fri 18. Nov 2022 22:18:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquir

Hi Habásek,
I am truly amazed !!!!!
So many flybarless set-ups for helicopters, etc, show green bar to top as PITCH UP !!!!!!! I.e. pull back on elevator to nose up.
Surely there should be some industry consistency, OR AT LEAST SHOW ON SOFTWARE GREEN BAR PAGE WHAT THIS BAR SHOULD INDICATE, i.e. AT TOP OF BAR WRITE "NOSE DOWN" IN SPIRIT AERO CASE.
Thank you, I will proverbially 'look-away' as I set the elevator !!!!
This should probably also be annotated in a diagram in the manual too. I have been living in a twilight world, obviously !
Andy

Author:  AndrewJohnHawes [ Fri 18. Nov 2022 22:31:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquir

Maybe I am just going rapidly senile.
I think my memory has been playing tricks on me !
I am sorry to have caused you so much effort.
Thank you for your support. All good now !
Andy

Author:  Habásek [ Fri 18. Nov 2022 22:32:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Elevator Bar moving wrong. Probably pretty stupid enquir

I hope I helped a little:
the same for Aero and Heli software versions.
The movement of the levers must always be the same as the movement of the green slide .. the lever on the transmitter towards itself (down) - the movement of the green slide is down ...

time on the video approx. 10:00 - hints:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPA0sJ-U54M&list=PLfaJZrF0GBJfNY3pi8Rr4AxrkSwokPQYu&index=3

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